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  • wow…looking through that page, its pretty “fuct” up how identical some of the pieces/works are…

    i dont know what to think about this…

    has shepard commented on this anywhere?

  • I don’t know of any site or recorded media where shepard has mentioned this issue. In the past I have spoken with Erik about Shepard aswell as others who have stolen or been influenced by his early works. They have given him little or no credit, fooling many of those who feed into the art/scene/streetwear lifestyle of today.

  • that is very interesting..

  • This could be totally coincidental. A simple “retro” image and an obvious spot for logo placement. Not everyone has seen everything that has been done.

  • obey is the biggest plaigerist of them all!!!!
    this website is pointless!!!!

  • both of these are just rip-offs/spoofs of the movie poster for the 60′s British film ‘girl on a motorcycle’. so where do you draw the line?

  • this was posted on the Brooklyn Project’s blog today:

    (…)
    The issue can be treated in two very distinct manners, though. And the
    outcome did not necessarily have to turn out this way:

    In one case, an artist “inspired” by another work of art can achieve
    the utmost respect from his peers when an honest effort to mention the
    source of inspiration is made. This is a quite simple yet effective
    way of letting the world know that integrity surpasses the need for instant
    gratification.

    If this crucial information is omitted, the end product is a mere
    “bite” of the original, which would bring us down the “other” path.
    The one dominated by ego, pride & the “agenda”. But then again, not
    every human being was raised with the same ethics & values. And
    unfortunately, this particular industry often seems to turn a blind
    eye on these types of situations. Is it a lack of common sense on the
    part of the people who make up this industry that allows “copycats” to
    actually make a living? Or is it simply intellectual laziness? One
    thing is for sure; those who do seek the truth and try to get to the
    bottom of the story are only a feeble few.

    Ultimately, those who stand the test of time are those who truly do
    make a difference, in every sense of the word.
    (…)

    I think this problem will always be present in this industry as it grows bigger and bigger. As in all creative industries, the people who compose it are more than often interested in the fame and money that can accompany a successful, much hyped line. Modesty is rather rare. Ego seems to be of the essence. Wanting to please, or simply to take over at any cost is often the motivation behind streetwear creations. The same way music production has become readily available to anyone with a computer, t-shirt making has become somewhat of a hobby. For the rich? Or the bored? Or the DJ turned designer? In a sea of mediocrity, it beomes more and more of a task to separate the diamonds in the rough from the fillers.
    As Nicky Hilton once cited, while discussing her new clothing line: “It’s a lot more difficult than I thought!”
    If Verte actually did address the issue face to face with FUCT, they indeed won back some brownie points. I have been scouring the web for any confession I could find from the other accused, namely Shepard, who has heavily relied on FUCT for inspiration through out the year; Nigo, who has blatantly ripped off the american-born streetwear pionneer & SSUR, a less than talented thug-come-designer who used the FUCT logo for his store awning in New York City a few years back – enough to confuse people into contacting FUCT asking if they had opened up a store on the East Coast.
    I did not find one sinlge comment. Difficult to digest when accusations are made more and more public, and when respectable industry contributors have themselves been shining a light on this issue.
    My theory is quite simple: Shepard is a white-bread silver-spoon fed kid from San Diego, who would wheatpaste his Obey stuff all over the city right before ASR, to make sure people would notice him. The message behind his so called art still remains a mystery to me and his artist statement was clearly written by someone else. He hides behind a team of publicists that tell him to ignore the FUCT “thing” – that enventually it will go away. I have been in contact with more than a few journalist who have tried to open THAT door, and were simply given the cold shoulder. If you look at Shepard’s body of work, any smart person can see that he brown-nosed his way into magazines, art galleries & shops. You can google his photo at the drop of a dime (what REAL street artist would want his face so recognizable if he was making REAL damage to public property. Banksy sure as hell stays out of the spotlight…) Which leads me to believe that contrary to popular belief, Obey, the “propaganda” compaign that invites young people to “question authority” is nothing more than a gigantic money making machine for the Jewish Moroccan investors that practically own Obey at this point. Legions of kids who stick stickers because they do not have anything smarter to do. SSUR on the other hand, recently must have realised that he was not such a great artist after all, and turned to organising the greatest industry scam of all: tradeshows. His old designs are pretty hard to find on the web. He was a little more aware of what he was doing, so made sure not much paper trail could incriminate him. If ever you have had the chance to meet this fascinating ebonic-speaking work of art, you probably did wonder why the hell he invested his hard earned drug money into such terrible designs. Nigo, on the other hand, is pretty much an idiot who spends much too much time trying to look black & dressing himself and his entourage like 8 year kids. When he came to america a few years ago visited the X-Large shop in Los Angeles, he pretty much took mental polaroids of the shop and used it as a blue-print to create his gawdy, tasteless, over-price clothing line. Of course, he will thank the Yakuza and Pharell Williams, but why would he mention WHO gave him a carreer, a Bently, an empire and more sex, diamonds & goldfronts than an asian wigger with a penis for a head can handle.
    My conlusion is that none of these individuals would go out on a limb to safe-guard their “creation”. Faced with a camera and magazine cover prospect, feature interview or documentary offer, they shine in their ego-maniacal glory and illusion that they somehow have accomplished someting great for the human race. Faced with the ultimate question: “Who is Erik Brunetti to you, and how has FUCT inspired you over the years?” They shy away, hide under a rock, get all worked up and threaten to send the Russian mob to shut you up; rather than forget about their ego for about 1 minute and reply the smart & humble answer;

    “Ah… So you DID notice! Haha… Well, this is how it goes:………”

  • i just read through some of the other comments. “G”, i think you oughta check out the link “Erik Brunetti calls out Shepard Fairey” and see all of the examples. I’m sorry but theres just too many examples to be purely COINCiDENTAL.

    and “Anonymous”, the fuct and obey belt buckle both may be spoofs of an existing movie poster but fuct’s is not a RIPOFF. its completely justifiable to appropriate or reference pre-existing work and re-invent it. But its a totally different scenario to appropriate the same exact source material of another artist over and over again and more or less do the same thing with it.

    On another note.. the obey shit has been shit. i just saw some poster around center or lafayette st and it pretty much does nothing for me no matter who he’s copping. it might as well be a republican campaign poster as far as i’m concverned. a majority of the shit out there is total crap. a bunch of twenty somethings pissing on fire hydrants with there recycled art school adverts. for a second i thought SWOON’s stuff was pretty cool but for the last couple year i’ve been seeing these paste ups that she involved with about some brooklyn collective shit. if you want to promote some club.. tack it up on a bulletin board in the supermarket. its depressing to see so much wasted time and energy promoting nothing. right now woman in iran are punished for being raped by being stoned to death. the us has been waging a nuclear war with depleted uranium tippid artillery etc.. etc. and people like this are making huge sensations over their blatant self-promotion that does not explore any new ideas, or question hardcore and relevent issues.

  • Why would Shepard Fairey blatantly steal Fuct stuff? They’re in the same industry and wouldn’t be a smart idea to do on purpose. Each artist has created hundreds or thousands of graphics, I’m not too sure I’d know every piece other designers had done. I’m sure it’s coincidental. If anything, it looks like they both took it from that movie poster so both Fuct and Fairey should be compared against the poster. It seems a little one sided the way it’s posted. Just my opinion though.

  • RE: “Why would Shepard Fairey blatantly steal Fuct stuff?”

    Most of Shepards images are stolen, copied, recycled or altered versions of someone elses original work. He is very good at tracing and using illustrator as well as finding iconic “inspiration” for his posters. He has always and continues to blatantly steal.

    please read : http://www.fuct.com/home_text.html

  • I imagine the above reply was from Fuct. It looks like you stolen, copied, recycled or altered that design too. And not to be a dick but at least the Obey one was illustrated and not just jacked from the poster straight up like the Fuct one was.

  • Yeah, that picture was clearly stolen. Original by from 1968 for the promo poster for “Girl On A Motorcycle”

    The original work

    Photoshopping your logo to replace the original in an iconic 60s film poster? Very fuckin clever both of ya.

  • FUCT has the better name. End of Fairy tale, Sheppy.
    They both know that and that’s all that matters….go make that money.

  • Most of these are blatant commercial rip-offs, but I would to comment on the Shepard Fairly print. Fairly has always had a theme of anti-propaganda propaganda. He takes commercialized photos and art, and then modifies them to take on critical meaning. Hence the name Obey. You see commercialism, and obey it. Fairly uses this means to remind us to question what we are shown. I think that print is fairgame, and in the States at least, parody is permitted as free speech, and not seen as copyright infringement.

  • The below quote sums at all up. OBEY makes everything safe. Whereas FUCT clearly embraces the threat. (look at their track record, XY)

    “To survive, the spectacle must have social control. It can recuperate a potentially threatening situation by shifting ground, creating dazzling alternatives- or by embracing the threat, making it safe and then selling it back to us.”

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  • rules the sheep that follow him with blind eyes. His work is nothing but plagiarism.

  • Swindle? Swindle Magazine?

    Didn’t FUCT do a parody of the “Great rock n Roll Swindle” on a tee? (in 1993-94?) It was titled “The Great Clothing swindle”. and it had the 10 lessons printed on the back on how to fuck over the clothing indusry. Fucking brillant shirt. I bought one in that store they had in 1994.

    I would call that a bite for sure. I don’t think OBEY existed in 94? Maybe I am wrong.

  • Yo Anonymous,

    FRANK IS FRIENDS WITH BANKSY, nuff said.

    Andrew is just a hater.

  • Andrew, it’s from the freaking Sex Pistols, an influence on almost anyone probably reading this post. A million people have done stuff referencing them. To try connect the OBEY take with the Fuct one is quite a stretch.

    Also,

    “To survive, the spectacle must have social control. It can recuperate a potentially threatening situation by shifting ground, creating dazzling alternatives- or by embracing the threat, making it safe and then selling it back to us.”

    What the hell is this about? I feel like I’m in high school with some stoners going around saying “there’s no justice, there’s just us.” G.T, you totally blew my mind with your infinite wisdom involved in that quote!

    I don’t understand why this post by Fuct hasn’t been edited. I think it’s giving an unecessary bad wrap to Obey. Neither of the 2 brands came up with the “original” design. There is a huge assumption made if this is considered to be a credible bite.

  • “I think it’s giving an unecessary bad wrap to Obey.”

    I don’t think this post has given Obey a bad wrap. Over the years he has been disliked by many in the art and graffiti world. He is a “sticker bomber” who uses and plagiarizes others work. His followers are quick to defend him without knowing the past. Those who came before him and those which he steals from.

    “OBEY makes everything safe”
    -safe for his servants to feed on.

  • “Over the years he has been disliked by many in the art and graffiti world.”

    Success often breeds contempt, isn’t that what they say? He gets the respect of people from HAZE and KAWS to Banksy to Futura and beyond. Shepard gets up more than most people I’ve ever seen and opens doors for alot of other artists. Also, has he ever said he was a graffiti writer? And dude puts up a whole lot more than stickers.

    The “bad wrap” comment had to do with the fact that OBEY and Fuct both referenced the same movie poster but OBEY is called out on this website for supposedly biting Fuct. Fuct did not origianlly make that poster. Before you write some comments about how Shepard is not respected put Fuct on blast for knocking that poster too. To me it looks like an unequal playing field.

  • this is more than one movie poster people.

    obey=biter

    check the other link its not just one thing. it goes all the way down to a logotype.

  • “He opens doors “, bullshit.
    Frank is a kiss ass and wants to associate him self with real talent. No, Erik didn’t make that movie poster of course, but he reworked it and did it first for street wear. Where there is an ethic don’t fucking bite and if you do be ready to battle because we were all graf writers for no $$$ gain first regardless of other categories like music that otherwise divide. Simple don’t bite. If you do come out, come out when you’re called out. Safety in numbers DOES NOT APPLY. A mass of lies, if Erik is a loft and obey is funded by a licensing deal/partnership within his family, it doesn’t matter, show face.

    Also, I’m bummed banksy did that Swindle mag cover. For all the cool shit banksy has done, it’s disappointing. He didn’t need ‘swindle’. It’s so gay and homogenized like everything else. It makes getting up safe??? Fuck that!
    He can’t play music so he dj’s … same mentality Obey+ other peoples music and has a bunch of “brainless all volunteers soldiers” pasting that redundant to say the least crap up.

  • Dear “Anonymous”

    “To survive, the spectacle must have social control. It can recuperate a potentially threatening situation by shifting ground, creating dazzling alternatives- or by embracing the threat, making it safe and then selling it back to us.”

    I would not call that quote “stoner shit”. If you had any intelligence at all you would re-read it and understand it. It sums up exactly what FUCT does, (being) by blatantly stealing pop culture images and vomiting them back out into the safe “art-world” society. FUCT, from what I understand, is not claiming to have “created” the Girl on a motorcycle image, (I doubt Erik was even born then) Nor do they claim to have created the Ford Motor Co. logo, Kiss make-up etc.. FUCT is “embracing the spectacle”, that “already has social control”, (i.e. society already is familiar with said image, thus making it a target for for reappropriation)

    However OBEY does not. They waited, and watched what FUCT did , then saw it “looked cool” and did it.

  • Anonymous said:

    “Success often breeds contempt, isn’t that what they say? He gets the respect of people from HAZE and KAWS to Banksy to Futura and beyond.”

    HAHAHAA…you are obviously an OBEY toy. Do your research kid.

    Erik Brunetti writes DEN, and has been buds with HAZE for years, as well as KAWS. Erik is in KAWS first book, along with TWIST. I have the book, it is called “KAWS/ EXPOSED” printed by Collette of Paris i think. just turn to page 9. (it’s a collab with the two of them)

    wow! You people that defend this OBEY crap sure shoot off at the neck before doing your research. Fucking clowns.

  • AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! PRAISE THE LORD!

    Dear “Anonymous”

    “To survive, the spectacle must have social control. It can recuperate a potentially threatening situation by shifting ground, creating dazzling alternatives- or by embracing the threat, making it safe and then selling it back to us.”

    I would not call that quote “stoner shit”. If you had any intelligence at all you would re-read it and understand it. It sums up exactly what FUCT does, (being) by blatantly stealing pop culture images and vomiting them back out into the safe “art-world” society. FUCT, from what I understand, is not claiming to have “created” the Girl on a motorcycle image, (I doubt Erik was even born then) Nor do they claim to have created the Ford Motor Co. logo, Kiss make-up etc.. FUCT is “embracing the spectacle”, that “already has social control”, (i.e. society already is familiar with said image, thus making it a target for for reappropriation)

    However OBEY does not. They waited, and watched what FUCT did , then saw it “looked cool” and did it.

  • “HAHAHAA…you are obviously an OBEY toy. Do your research kid.

    Erik Brunetti writes DEN, and has been buds with HAZE for years, as well as KAWS. Erik is in KAWS first book, along with TWIST. I have the book, it is called “KAWS/ EXPOSED” printed by Collette of Paris i think. just turn to page 9. (it’s a collab with the two of them)”

    That has nothing to do with research. All that was said before is that they are friends with and respect Shepard. Nobody said Den didn’t know those dudes or wasn’t friends with them either so I don’t know what that rant was about.

    I don’t know why I’m wasting my time with this anyway. Fuct shit is beat, plain and simple. Quite the extensive imaginative clothing line. The LV print stuff is real cool too. This whole discussion is like some Dr. Evil talk, I invented the question mark. And what’s up with the talk about defending OBEY? Is it me or are a bunch of these posts defending Fuct. That would be like me saying GT is just another pawn in the Fuct game. I have a feeling most of these posts come from Fuct anyway. Final thing I’ll say is this dude Erik seems real bitter. 2 guys started 2 different companies, both have had great successes at times. One has been able to take his efforts to greater levels and one hasn’t quite had the same luck. Was it drug use, “keeping it real”ness, or some other factor that hasn’t allowed Fuct to get to the same level as OBEY has? Maybe. All I know is I see alot more works by Shepard than Den out there. I know that dude works his ass off for what he has and doesn’t have legions of people putting up his posters or even stickers like some people assume, although I’m sure alot of kids take it upon themselves to put stickers up. That’s it for me from this website and no I don’t work for Obey.

  • belzonisawkid

    man, this post is full of some dumb shits who have no clue about “art”… they like fairey because they are “told” to like fairey. And, the whole thing with the movie poster… to me, FUCT is a social statement and always has been. FUCT makes gigantic social statements with his art – the ‘girl on a motorcycle’ film was probably NEVER seen by fairey or any of these apologists and so they have no idea the social implications that the film wrapped itself around – and besides, the FUCT art seems meant to be “subversive”, so naturally it flies over the head of those who either have never seen the film, have no idea whoh marriane faithful is, or undertand the irony of the 60′s sexual revolution. the “FUCT’s” use of the image is just a perfect fit… but what the fuck does “OBEY” have to do with making an allusion to the film, the 60′s revolution, anything social????????? NOTHING! they just fucking stole it because it “looks cool”, and they made it into a commercial for their “brand”. Same thing Pepsi would do. Or Fritos.

    everything fairey makes becomes like a turd falling in my drink. it’s not art, it’s all a commercial. whoever wrote that post about women in iran being punished for being raped is my hero.. that was an excellent post. fairey offers nothing as a statement, just turds.

    have you seen the fender guitar that he “designed”??? made me not want to own my fender… AND I LOVE MY FENDER!

  • Dear “Anonymous” AKA “OBEY/ SWINDLE employee”

    “Fuct shit is beat, plain and simple. Quite the extensive imaginative clothing line. The LV print stuff is real cool too. ”

    Then why waste time reading this garbage? If it’s beat, then stop reading this blog.

    However, I will agree with you that the LV print is fucking played out.

  • What’s with all the talk about drug use with this FUCT guy? Are drugs bad now?

  • belzonisawkid said:

    “have you seen the fender guitar that he “designed”??? made me not want to own my fender… AND I LOVE MY FENDER!”

    I have seen it. And it is horrible. Bad design all around. OBEY should stick to playing other peoples music, like being a “DJ”…………..(the same way they use other peoples Ideas for t-shirts)

    That guitar is an insult to real music people…or just music in general.

  • DAMN.

    this is the best blog link ever!

    is giant the same company as obey?

    shit is fuct up.

  • Now I know I’m not alone. I knew obey had taken a turn for the worst when I first saw their shirts in Nordstroms. This was well over a year ago when I saw a huge “this is your god” poster placed in the RAIL at nordstroms. I couldn’t believe that it had come to this. Maybe a week later I returned and I’m guessing someone had complained but they had covered the “this is your god” wording with a sticker. It was bad enough seeing the shirts in Tjmaxx but to sellout to nordstroms and then being censored by higher corporate powers, it was the final straw for me.
    As for fuct, they’re a company that has been around forever. Through the good and bad times they have managed to stay true to the industry that they once helped spawn. It amazes me how little people know about the history of street wear or whatever you want to call it. Companies like Fuct are rare and backs a history of a much higher quality then today’s wannabe millionaire companies.

    “Because OBEY is a message driven company, driven by Shepard’s graphics and ideas, the t-shirt is the perfect vehicle to spread the OBEY message. Someone wearing a t-shirt with an OBEY graphic is like having a mobile message board.”
    http://www.ocstreet.com/obey.html

    Keep up the good work you little messageboards.

  • YO, FUCK IS A BUNCH OF PUNK ASS MOTHER FUCKERS!

    OBEY IS FLY,

    END OF STORY.

  • “YO, FUCK IS A BUNCH OF PUNK ASS MOTHER FUCKERS!

    OBEY IS FLY,

    END OF STORY.”

    This is another reason why I refuse to wear OBEY.

    “obey is fly” … haha.

  • Have ya’ll seen this shit? Fuckin crazy, biterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

    http://www.brghtnghts.com/blog/?page_id=33

  • Fuck is right. I heard about this from a friend and didn’t believe it when i saw it. Shep is full of lies. I did some searching and found this on FUCT.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuct

    I can see why shep would steal from FUCT though, it has been around much longer then all of the fruity color brands of today.

  • “It isn’t about my fame. I am not the light. I hold the torch so others might see.”

  • if this allegations against OBEY are true… why hasn’t FUCT taken any legal action?

  • BLOOD WARS.

  • FUCT is Fucked...

    FUCT has based their WHOLE line (which is nothing but poorly made tees) off of visual images and logos that they “re-mixed” and basically bit to begin with. How can you get pissed about bitting when your WHOLE line is centered around bitting? As for what he had to say about SSUR- he is way off base. SSUR has more than tees and has reallt nice product in the NY store. They get a lot of cred without being too flashy. FUCT fell off, and now the guy is bitter. We found this response from SSUR on MySpace, and it is SO true. Anyone who has been around long enough to see both of these lines come up over the past 10+ years knows this. Know your history kids, before you start to dick-ride the wrong man.

    SSUR’s response:

    “Whoever wrote that is THE ego centric moron of our age.
    Intellectual debate? It’s called POP CULTURE you mental midget!!! Let’s talk about REAL LIFE not tee shirt graphics you white supremacist loser!!! Just because his rich parents gave his sorry ass money to print the fuckin Planet of the Apes on tees doesn’t make him a GUERRILLA.

    He is, and will remain, a little monkey.

    ‘Even if I stuttered I would still ShShShit on you’
    B.P.

    Yours Truly,
    SSURilla than that clown.

    Quote me”

  • not to beat a dead horse but Shepard has made his career from biting stuff. thats what he does.

  • Had the same discussion on another site – Erik Brunetti has no leg to stand on because every image he claims Shepard Fairey ripped was already a famous image, and none of them are original artwork he made himself. The Obey versions clearly reference the original versions and not the Fuct ones, because they include additional details that differ. Basically both of them took famous images, modified them, and slapped them on shirts, and ripping off pop culture is basically par for the course in the industry.

    Re: everything on http://www.brghtnghts.com/blog/?page_id=46

    That image of Mao was official propaganda and it was everywhere in China while he was alive…
    http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/dictators/mao/mao_banners_poster_shrunk.jpg
    http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/dictators/mao/mao_redbook_poster_shrunk.jpg
    http://www.agentofchaos.com/ic/art/mao_lg.jpg

    And the cuban poster of Angela Davis is almost as well known as the Che image in revolutionary circles…
    http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/8/8a/200px-Libertad_angela.jpg

    And as for Kiss… That’s one of the most popular bands on the planet… Plus the treatments are quite different…
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/Genesolo2.JPG

    As for the other stuff… the old giant logo is obviously an intentional referencing of the Fuct brand, the Erik B. and Rakim shirts don’t even resemble each other, and neither do the belt buckles. You can’t copyright the idea of reproducing something in the public domain…

    Anyone remember someone named Andy Warhol…?

  • FUCT has based their WHOLE line (which is nothing but poorly made tees) off of visual images and logos that they “re-mixed” and basically bit to begin with. How can you get pissed about bitting when your WHOLE line is centered around bitting? As for what he had to say about SSUR- he is way off base. SSUR has more than tees and has reallt nice product in the NY store. They get a lot of cred without being too flashy. FUCT fell off, and now the guy is bitter. We found this response from SSUR on MySpace, and it is SO true. Anyone who has been around long enough to see both of these lines come up over the past 10+ years knows this. Know your history kids, before you start to dick-ride the wrong man.

    SSUR’s response:

    “Whoever wrote that is THE ego centric moron of our age.
    Intellectual debate? It’s called POP CULTURE you mental midget!!! Let’s talk about REAL LIFE not tee shirt graphics you white supremacist loser!!! Just because his rich parents gave his sorry ass money to print the fuckin Planet of the Apes on tees doesn’t make him a GUERRILLA.

    He is, and will remain, a little monkey.

    ‘Even if I stuttered I would still ShShShit on you’
    B.P.

    Yours Truly,
    SSURilla than that clown.

    Quote me”

    Dear “FUCT is Fucked”

    You should learn your history. Russ aka SSUR tried to buy into the X-FUCT store when X-Large and FUCT dissolved it. (in 1994) They weren’t interested…so Russ did the next best thing. He bit their ideas. (Mafia images, Apes, Warriors, Nam Images..etc…the list goes for ever)

    I also know Erik. He does not have rich parents. In fact, he comes from a very poor back ground.

    I do agree with you on some points though. I think posting dumb facts on the internet is imature. It’s not “LIFE” like your post said. But instead of calling people names, just look up the details of all the debates on this blog, (like “Tavish” did) and educate people.

    I think Russ saying that (if he did say it; you can’t believe anything on myspace) about Erik, it makes him look really bad. Because he (or whoever said it) did not make a point at all.

    Thanks.

  • Gregor (sorry, I posted wrong)

    Dear “FUCT is Fucked”

    You should learn your history. Russ aka SSUR tried to buy into the X-FUCT store when X-Large and FUCT dissolved it. (in 1994) They weren’t interested…so Russ did the next best thing. He bit their ideas. (Mafia images, Apes, Warriors, Nam Images..etc…the list goes for ever)

    I also know Erik. He does not have rich parents. In fact, he comes from a very poor back ground.

    I do agree with you on some points though. I think posting dumb facts on the internet is imature. It’s not “LIFE” like your post said. But instead of calling people names, just look up the details of all the debates on this blog, (like “Tavish” did) and educate people.

    I think Russ saying that (if he did say it; you can’t believe anything on myspace) about Erik, it makes him look really bad. Because he (or whoever said it) did not make a point at all.

    Thanks,

    Gregor

  • the message is the message

  • i meant to say it will be funny when real propaganda will steal their images to create a real message that will not end up a clothing company. meaning the message is the message.

  • http://www.kissfaq.com/albumcovers/raro/raro_sticker.jpg

    The gene simmons looks like its from this album cover, which obey and fuct probably took it from.

  • give me a fucking break. all these whiney fucking artists bitching about their works being stolen. give me a fucking break. this cat’s just pissed because he didn’t know how to fucking market his work and didn’t make any money. this guy can go fuck himself.

  • I’m not really that into Obey or Fuct. So political messages aside, I can only just judge the final product from a design POV. Obey definitely has a polished final product in my opinion. From color schemes to layout design I enjoy looking at Fairly’s work much more than Den One’s (Speaking strictly from a graphocal design point of view). As to which company is more “legit” in their messages, I have little idea.

    To me, it seems Obey’s success is not due to Fairly jacking Fuct’s stuff, it is because Fairly knows how to market his brand. So what if Fuct did it first; they did not generate the attention that Obey supposedly “stole” from them.

    That being said, I imagine Fairly did steal from Fuct more often than not. Not surprising in the scene as many have pointed out. All you artists are trying to send a messages through your work but now it seems that going after your peers for taking your ideas is the agenda nowadays. Pretty sad for the entire scene.

  • im sittin here waitin for ogay to put out a ford logo parody, do it sticker boy.

  • The whole Obey/Andre thing was started with a sticker containing a recognizable face: Andre the Giant. From the very beginning it’s been about taking things that people know and putting a new spin on them. Kind of like Warhol and his soup cans, or his Brillo boxes, or any number of other things he did. Were the Campbell’s people pissing and moaning about that?

    And how many knock-offs of the Andre image have there been over the years? Shepard seems to embrace this rather than complain about people stealing his design.

    And as for Giant stealing the Fuct typeface for its logo, isn’t that just another one of their revamps? I heard the tagline that accompanied it (which isn’t mentioned in the article above) was “based on more than just a bad word.”

    Also, like D-5 said, there is just a lot more care and attention to detail that goes into the Obey design.

  • Very interesting man , very dope gear cant wait till the fall shipments dope stuff!!!
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  • I like you, Adriano.

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  • Erik Brunetti aka Den should Fuct-up Shepard Fairey who has embarrassed himself on the world stage for his cultural thieving of the Obama Poster!! You have finally been caught!!
    FUCK YOU SHEPARD FAIREY and YOUR LIES!!!!

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