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  • thoughtprovoker

    i see this as nothing more than saving time and money…why is this posted again?

  • its really interesting to look at those similarities. But i completely understand them doing so. Because of the painstaking work in traditional animation, this is a pretty viable option to recreate the same scenes

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  • I remember on the first post so many where all moody about the fact that it wasn’t a rip, despite the fact that the OP already said so on the post. Why is it on here then? Well Its interesting to see somebody rip themselves off, in a perfectly viable way! Also theres a fair chance that one or two animators thought we wouldn’t notice.

    I guess this post proves we did :P

  • I agree, this is a fascinating post. “thought provoking,” you might say. anybody interested in classic animation would find this of interest. thanks.

  • thoughtprovoker seems to have poorly chosen their nick

    I totally agree with the other posters, this is definitely worthy of YTWWN.

    Why is it that there is often such a high percentage of negative and acerbic commentors on here?

    I can understand having your blood boil because you see a particularily nasty rip, or a ripper that you’ve had a personal relationship/historical knowledge of, or a post that is way off the mark….

    But getting short about a post on an interesting ref to reuse of content?

    Lame.

    Why is it that when I read someone commenting like this….I can almost sense the original incident where they were screwed over in the past (by a girl, or society, or the man)…and wisely choose to approach the whole world in “asshole mode” moving forward…

    Well played.

    On a side issue…there is a lot of other thought provoking stuff out there related to Disney and copyright…

    Given that Disney presents and prides itself as imagineers and a fount of creativity….this vids just reaffirms how hollow their posturing sometimes is. And how (until they bought Pixar) they choose to rest on their laurels. Especially in light of their aggressive advocacy for the Copyright Term Extension Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act)…ad infinitum.

    http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20020305_sprigman.html

    And the hypocrisy of rabidly protecting the copyright of your products…when you’ve choose as a corporate ethos to create them from freely taking from public domain works (fairy tales, classics) and reinterpet/reworking them….instead of generating new content from stratch.

    It’s weak to attempt to have it both ways…

    Anyways, the whole copyright issue is truly fascinating…and how a law whose intentions was to protect creators for a limited span and prompt them to continue generating new content…became so bastardized by capitalism and coporations that it now acts as an easy cash cow for the endless generation of income by immortal faceless conglomerates…undermining the need to ever have to be creative again…

    http://www.international.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=10831

  • great post! It’s not really a rip, but you’re right it’s still highly amusing! :D

  • The technique itself is called rotoscoping. Tracing over live action scenes to get complex motion down and then refining the character details was and is still common practice. Remember when these movies were made and how many.

    The clip itself is awesome as YTWWN points out, it’s really quite cool to see the technique presented like this.

  • Robin Hood was made when Disney was having financial problems so, yes, a lot of that was directly traced. It’s not really new information, but still kind of interesting.

  • Wow, I’m finding myself losing respect for Disney classics that I liked as a kid, I never even noticed. You’d think with the time it took to redraw different characters doing the exact same actions that they could have spent the same time making something original and not reusing the scenes.

  • At least they are ripping off themself, not others. However, I doubt the original artists are being credited in the movie credits for the more recent renditions.

  • recycling (when its your own work)is awesome

  • Tanner Kay
    “Also theres a fair chance that one or two animators thought we wouldn’t notice.”

    Hum… I dunno how much you know about the animaton industry, but by your comment it is probably not that much. So let me let you in a little secret, the animators don’t decide about the animation. They simply animate it. There are many other steps before the actual animation such as storyboards and layout posing, and I do believe the director has the final word and decides what’s gonna be in the actual movie. The animators animate what they are told, so I do not believe you should be blaming them for this. Since it wasn’t their fault. There I said it.

  • YosHi – I refer to earlier comment by kiki:

    “Why is it that there is often such a high percentage of negative and acerbic commentors on here?

    I can understand having your blood boil because you see a particularily nasty rip, or a ripper that you’ve had a personal relationship/historical knowledge of, or a post that is way off the mark….

    But getting short about a post on an interesting ref to reuse of content?

    Lame.”

  • pocketwatcher

    lol @ thoughtprovoker.

  • Seriously, get your fucking heads out of Disneys ass.
    Disney is over rated bullshit.

  • Well i see what you are saying but think about it all of that animation was mostly done by the same people and also it was all hand drawn so it was probably a lot easier to do and teach the same sequences rather than create entirely new one every single time disney is a company and its this was probably the most efficient way to make their product.

  • thats whats up

    what a waste of time watchingt his

  • My 2yr old has all of these movies, he has to watch them at least once a day. I pointed this out to my husband last year. lol. Kinda hard to miss.

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  • I don´t see how this is a bad thing. Isn´t it allowed to save time and money by re-using the animations if it´s possible? And you cannot plagiarize from yourself, because you cannot steal from yourself and plagiarizing is nothing but stealing other peoples´ ideas.

  • thank you for crushing all my childhood dreams.

  • No wonder Disney movies give me dejavu.

  • it seriously took you until adulthood to notice this? how sad for you.

  • Disney films are that good that they can get away with it. Great stories that can be passed from generation to generation. The fact that many scenes are re-used just provides for an interesting bit of movie trivia and nothing more. It is important to remember that cartoons today are made much quicker and easier than they were back in the day, but still dont quite live up to greats such as Jungle Book and Snow White etc.

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