The Sarah Connor Chronicles
January 6th, 2008 by eliotphillips
I saw this ad running on Fox.com for Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
I guess there’s only one way to draw a female cyborg torso because it reminds me of the Puppeteer in Masamune Shirow’s Ghost in the Shell manga from 1991.
The Fox ad has the elbow notches, ab notch, and even the dangling spine. You can see a full page scan with a few more angles here.
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This is also a similar design to that one Star Trek TNG movie’s Borg Queen. Oddly antithetical to the Venus De Milo, too.
not a bad source of inspiration. yeah it’s a rip but hey, it’s one you’d have to research to get.
Definitely seems inspired.
It just looks like a robot torso from every other robot movie. Weak post.
I agree: weak post.
The dangling spine seems like an obvious choice to me. As for the notches in the arms, I think it’s more likely that both artists are smart enough to thing about how a cyborg would be articulated. I’d call it “possibly inspired by” at best.
Masamune Shirow’s work is pretty much canon at this point. When people think of futuristic tech design, they think of Masamune Shirow.
Good luck finding a modern sci-fi illustrator or artist whose work isn’t inspired by — or at least remotely derivative of — Shirow’s, consciously or not.
Ha. Great cyberbrains think alike. I posted a similar post on my blog about Summer on the poster looking like images from GitS as well as Battle Angel Alita.
Oh, and don’t forget the way that gal from the animated Metropolis started pulling/falling apart at the end. As the others have said, aside from the elbow and abdomen notches that design is used in the vast majority of sci-fi female cyborg designs. Now that I think on it even KOS-MOS from Xenosaga has a lot of similarity to it, as do a lot of female type mecha (play Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation for GBA, and the sequel’s re-release as well).
It’s mechanical, it’s female, and 90% of them seem to all be based on the same design, like that jeans commercial from a decade ago showing ‘women’ being stamped from a mold.
typical. not a rip.
Stylistically, I would draw it the same, if not very very similar. Having the torso and arms removed is stylistic to represent the cyborg, while keeping the most attractive parts (face, breasts… sorry).
As for the notches… well… maybe. But I think notches are a better choice than a clean cut or an rough tear.
It’s a similarity but not one that is cause for action.
I would’ve thought this was an homage (conscious or otherwise) before thinking it a blatant design rip.
crap post.
interesting. i dont think its a rip though.
the notches are derived from articulations on doll’s arms going back into antiquity. you can see those types of joints in hans bellmers “dolls” (amazing art if you dont know it)
Pretty weak. Guess this is what happens when finding examples of people being ripped off becomes a trendy internet fandom/meme. Totally overreaching.
Lame as it is, this is clearly hollywood taking inspiration from manga. In most cases that’s not a good thing artistically speaking, but it’s not a ripoff in the same sense as literally stealing someone’s design to put on a t-shirt.
It wasn’t a rip when Oshii very directly referenced/copied the design of Hans Bellmer’s dolls in the superb ‘Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence’, and it isn’t a rip here. There is such thing as a homage.
It’s just cyberpunk’s aesthetics you morons. Not a rip.
My words exactly, Joy Panzer, anyone familiar with the Cyberpunk genre has seen this kind of android display in probably a dozen of different stories from all kinds of media.