Welcome to ‘you thought we wouldn’t notice’ a site dedicated to pointing out those things that give you that feeling of ‘haven’t I seen that somewhere before?”
This is a open blog so anyone can post anything, we don’t have control over what is put up. We can only delete/edit it once it’s posted, but would much rather leave it with corrected information.
If anyone has any issues with any of the posts please email us on ytwwn [at] youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com
Anyone posting PLEASE check your sources.
These are some of the reasons you shouldn’t post here:
- It could be a commissioned work.
- It could be a tribute.
- Or it could be credited.
- It could be the same idea by different people
Please check that it not the case before posting.
Often reasons why you may have ’seen it before’ please check that your post that it doesn’t come under the following:
- Parodies: intentional copies mocking the original
- Same Influences/Inspirations: If someone was inspired by “a plane hitting a building” to create art you can’t stop anyone else from having the same inspiration.
Style: You can’t really own a style. These ones may be judge case by case. post and let the readers decide. - Artist Vs Artist stuff is just so bitchy, I would much rather see artist vs company issues posted here
Posts can be deleted and edited by the user who post them.
Post can be deleted if the person being ripped off does not want their publicized
Post can be deleted if it is found to be incorrect and damaging to any persons involved due to false statements
If you need help in posting please see the ‘how to’ guide here.
Welcome to any suggestions just post below
suggestions:
no artist vs artist bickering.
blatant insulting of other users since thats not constructive.
watch the racism and slurs.
I write you because of an incident in which VERSACE copied my
work onto a shirt of there’s. Accident happened around 2002-2003.
Is it still relevant. I got very OK but not 100% best-good material of proove.. If you are interested in featuring this I will send you material.
hope to hear from you soon, Best Zedz
Typo – “The intentions of this site are to showcase incidents >>wear
Check this out
http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/e3i03028edcdfa0f027e8372b01f21890de
Don’t take life so seriously. Most of the ‘original’ art work has been copied in some way or another…. you just don’t know from where
I worked loosely through a couple of fashion chains owned and operated by the same people, where I was instructed to recreate stolen designs from already made shirts, change the colours, *slightly* alter graphics, and add their logo.
THESE WERE STORE BOUGHT SHIRTS IN THE US REMADE FOR SALE IN CANADA>!!!!
It pissed me off to no end that more than fifty designs went through my hands untouched and uncredited before I quit.
I wish I had documented the shirts that I was made to copy, taken pictures, or something…
BAH
I’d quit the company I worked for before agreeing to do something like recreating stolen designs to be resold like that under a different brand name. If you are a graphic designer by occupation, being associated with having indirectly plagiarized someone else’s work, even if it was ordered by a higher up, is just about the last thing you’d want for your reputation.
If the company was accused, whether it be via legal action, or blog posts on a site like this, they could always plead ignorance and place all the blame on you. And whether or not you manage to clear your name, the fact is, you did copy other peoples’ work, and possible clients will always see a liability in hiring you, with the possible risk that they may be facing legal action or a tarnished reputation due to stolen designs.
Aww come on, at least he was honest. It’s a lot easier to get all high and mighty on someone than it is to be honest about something you did that you regret; and I doubt he is advertising the fact that he worked for a company like that to his potential clients. I’m not saying you don’t have a valid point, though, Mr. X
What’s up with the disappearing posts? There have been a few instances in the last weeks where posts have been made…and then commented (potentially debunked as not truly design theft)…and then those posts have magically disappeared.
For instance:
“because hot topic is notorious for this” (http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/?p=767)
I was disappointed not to see where the comments went with this post. And as a loyal reader, I’d really like posts to remain….especially if they generate dialog. If a post is debunked as not relevant to this blog….I think something other than erasure should be done.
Perhaps strike-out text….or some standard watermark stamp to identify that the post isn’t relevant (Busted?). Or end up on a separate page tab where all the dead posts go to die. Given that things are disappearing that I’ve seen….I’d be interested in seeing what disappers that I didn’t get the chance to see…and the criterion that defines what doesn’t make it to print…and what gets removed and why.
The deleting or removal of posts that have gone up and had comments added feels like revisionism to me…whether it is on the part of the posters (CYA’ing) or the webmaster (cleaning house).
you have a fair point Kiki,
I delete the post if it really isn’t a rip, there has been a few time where i have left them because of the great discussion in the comments.
I Don’t want people to be called out when they really don’t deserve it.
From now on ill cross out or collapse the post instead of deleting.
I like the Idea of writing ‘busted’ but it sounds like we have caught someone, what about ‘defunct’? or something like that…
one question: how does exactly “wanted to know more” work?. I don’t see any button for that. and still the “wanted o know more” counters keep clicking
thanks.
got it: people that viewed the post, without commenting or rating. (right?)
hey: cool site. with a few more functions in the comments a la flickr, it would be even better. (I’m suggesting getting inspired by flickr. not ripping them off.
)
best,
DG
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How many of you are actually copyrighting your material? If you aren’t then I have no feeling of remorse.
Copyright is automatic. You don’t have to apply, register, anything – you create, you get copyright. Read your law before you rip people off and say “have no feeling of remorse”.
there is a really good book about Australian law for creators called Creative Practice and the Law – which is written by an australian Law academic who taught me about art law – it has stuff about copyright and trademarks and how you can get caught
What ever happened to “Proper evidence of Sam Flores Rip?… ” http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/?p=1022
I found this post helpful in clearing up my own confusion about the prior post (http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/?p=1018) which was poorly documented. And I thought that it would generate some interesting dialog (as the poster who put it up went on a bit of a tear for no good reason…and potentially that could provide a cautionary tale as to how to properly use the inter-tubes).
But now I see that the whole post is gone.
: (
I really wish that posts would remain up, even if they go south or go off target. They provide useful discussion and content for your site. As it is now, without that post…the prior post heads in a direction of “Jesus this site sucks now” and “this site is sucking pretty hard lately”. Which isn’t fair at all.
The user who posted the follow-up did a great job of clarifying the issue (though her tone was off and out of left field).
How do post deletions work? Is it the user who can just pull their post whenever they feel they have misspoken (if it is…you should rethink that)? Do you remove them when they start to go south? (again you should rethink that…sites thrive based on community and discourse…and content…removing content and quelling discourse should not be your role. That’s the role of a censor. You should be playing the role of a moderator…who jumps in and adds clarity and outlines first principles on the use of the site…given, this is your site ultimate you can take your ball and do what you want with it…but how you run it will define who wants to read it.)
Either way, you are doing your site a great disservice by revising its content like this. The only thing that you should moderate is racial slurs, threats of violence, and release of personal information.
Other than that….this is the internet. Information, once released, is free. Removing information or revising posts after the fact needs to be done in the open (with strike through for revisions of inaccurate information that is updated…so that everyone can see what has changes). Just janking stuff isn’t right…especially as once info is out there…a dialog starts…communication begins. Questions and statement are made. If the post is then pulled you are squashing that dialog…and frankly setting a bad precident and potentially driving away your readership.
Out of interest and curiosity….could you clarify your policy for removal of posts?
And if users have the ability to remove their own posts (should they get cold feel or hindsight) could you please consider disabling that? It’s bad internet form. Once things are said…they can’t be unsaid…just clarified. It promotes dialog, discussion, courtesy and maturity to let people’s statements stand on their own. That’s how the real world works…and that is also how the interwebs work.
Hey Kiki,
you are right- I used to delete any ‘debunked’ or otherwise post but now I leave them there like you say but I collapse the post(‘more’ link) and say why it is not a rip or whatever the case…
Regarding the post in question “Proper evidence of Sam Flores Rip” this must have been removed by user who posted it. I can’t stop that(i think), users need to be able to edit their post so they can fix things like images being too big or if they need to update the story, ect. I’m no web expert but I don’t thing I can let them edit the post but not delete it??
I do need update the above info to clarify about deleted post…
maybe something like:
Posts can be deleated and edited by the user who post them.
Post can be deleted if the person being ripped off does not want there story publicized
Post can be deleted if it is found to be incorrect and damaging to any persons involved
thanks for bringing it up kiki
YTWWN
YTWWN,
Thanks so much for clearing that up.
K.
You might wish to have someone proofread your work.
For example: “As above & If someone makes an illustration of a photo it is still there work (look at andy warhol).” In the case of this sentence, “their” is the correct word, not “there.”
I also take issue with that statement as a whole. Referencing a photograph and copying it outright are two different things; one is plagiarism and one is not. Photographers are artists and their work is as much protected by copyright law as anyone else’s. Copying a photograph by drawing or painting it is as much a copyright violation as photocopying said photo, sticking it on a website or t-shirt and claiming it as one’s own.
@meep
I am hopeless when it comes to spelling & grammar. Please feel free to correct me.
Looking back at that statement it is very unclear what I am trying to say I think it is covered well enough in the above one so ill just delete it.
Cheers,
ytwwn
I don’t (as yet) know what I’m doing with accessing this list to post so I may be in the wrong place. I would like to mentiion the web site http://www.no-spec.com as a source of information on what other creatives are doing to address the abuse of artist and their work product.
This so called artist just makes me mad.
http://www.wrongworks.com
I don’t mind parodies. Be it clever or not. But if you start doing that as your whole fricken company, you don’t really need to be an artist. He is just a parasite to make a buck or two on the way. It’s just oozing with ironies and also insults all the artists out there who are doing what this guy is dong but making social commentaries.
C’mon taking other people’s photographs, artworks, logos and altering, stamped over then calling it a Wrongworks Authentic item is just “wrong”.
Sad to see idiots buying his stuff. It’s not even cheap.
Got the link right this time:
http://www.wrongwroks.com
Any chance you can start leaving the posts by the “Outraged Artists” screaming *RIP!* when there is almost no common elements? Perhaps just recategorize them. Like under “Fools” or something.
I’m starting to enjoy those more then the actual rips.
Google Reader keeps all posts even if they were deleted and I hate to see something like the recent “Portfolio Site Rip-Off” by timlahan be deleted before I have a chance to even see the comments for it.
Anyway, thanks for your time.
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The posts RSS feed doesn’t seem to be working.
Are you using this one:
http://feeds.feedburner.com/YouThoughtWeWouldntNotice
?
let me know if that works
Yeah, thats the feed URL I’m using. Refreshing in NetNewsWire doesn’t bring new posts.
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You thought we would have proofread our “About” page.
“to create there art”
Seriously?
YTWWN SAYS: thanks noted. Yes I can’t spell for shit. sue me.
the RSS feed still doesn’t work, btw.
http://feeds.feedburner.com/YouThoughtWeWouldntNotice is apparently an invalid feed. i’ve tried adding it to three different readers.
You may want to check your website, it’s recently been “Defaced by Aziza”, it’s detected by AV as an iframe malware, I checked the source to a couple pages and this seems to be whats detected:
Just a heads up through here since I can’t find a webmaster email.
Where -is- the webmaster email? The site’s now been listed under google as an attack site due to the above. Anyways, y’all most likely know that. Good luck fixing the security breach.
Great blog!
Found this from an old 2007 etsy forum post
What about fan art that was obviously traced but the person states them as “recreations” is that a do or don’t post if proven wrong?
Hi, I’currently working on project similar to this with couple advanced features, there should exist more websites like this, because every day there are stolen ideas, designs and others..keep it up!
ps: please add captcha plugin to comments
These guys rob and steal most of there work:
http://www.reluctanthero.co.uk/
http://www.prefab77.co.uk
Paperchase stealing designs
http://hidenseek.typepad.com/come_out_come_out/
Nick Simmons case should be added on here…. sem to hear a lot about him lately =O!
What about artists/designers that blatantly copy pop culture images (i.e. comics, tv, movies) and sells them for their own profit? I have been having an issue with this artist: (http://www.jwcasey.com). I have had to share tables with him at different ComicCons and he just sells images that he copies. I sell all original work and this stuff is frustrating. I assume there is something he can get in major trouble for. It’s not like he is doing it for fun or as a tribute; he is doing it for a living….
hi1 I’ m a follower of your site because I hate people who just take advantage of ideas.
i have a very good example from my country costa rica, i hope you can post it.
the original: Smirnoff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9aSN8ASzNk
the copycat: Some state bank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya0ktNC0JFM
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@ytwwn
what happened to this post?? :
http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/?p=6228
get a real fucking job assholes. you guys must have nothing to do besides try to make conspiricys out of everything.
FAGS!!!
Everyone has ideas. and as many people that are in the world im sure some of them are similar. get a life! this site sucks
Hey, What a great site! As a newcomer to world of design, my future copyright fears have me worried! I think I’ll try and keep my stuff off the internet, until the time comes when I can legally copyright my work!
As a suggestion, you should have a page dedicated to resolves, it would be really interesting to see what happens later, and for those that you guys are the ones being ripped off, the problems you had to achieve justice!
Particularly interested in the Lisa Fittipaldi ‘case’ I was going to offer my webdesign services after seeing her on a tvspot, free of course, helping the blind is a cause close to me, and to think that someone is using that to profit from stolen “art” is horryfying!
Hi,
I’m not much of a blogger, but I ran across this amazing blog.
Aside from the overall concepts I love how the public has been integrated into calling out some of these copying people…
Thank you so much for the amazing efforts and ideas that have been presented.
hello,
i hope this comment find you.
i was trying to log in but somehow i couldn’t.
i just want to post the rip off of art work by Rockin’ Jelly Bean
“Don’t Screwed Me Up！ Ver.1 STICKER”
http://blog-imgs-31.fc2.com/e/r/o/erostika/mods1.jpg
seems like Timba Smits (guy from London)pretty much lift the girl and placed it on to his drawing.(even the number 88 is on her t-shirt)
http://www.flylyf.com/illustrations-by-timba-smits/