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24Apr/1118

Wow…club kids are thieves too? nooooooo…

This is a flyer i designed for a party some loser who calls himself KAOS was hosting. After many disagreements business and personal i happily parted ways with him and his group.After a couple weeks i noticed that they were still using my design even though i told them not to, and used the facebook intellectual copyright complaint form to get this removed. today i saw this


Oh well, i guess some people have no real motivation to do anything on their own.

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  1. Wow those are fugly, I think I need to go bleach my eyes.

  2. Consider yourself lucky it was just a quickie flyer. I had a bad client ditch me when I wouldn’t do work I wasn’t contracted for, then steal the code from a functional comp before I could delete it. Their website is now 80% my code.

  3. God, those are ugly. And i’m refering to both the original and copied work.

  4. Yeah this is one of the most sucky things. When you do work for a client, the relationship/job doesn’t seem to work out. But then they use your work anyway without paying you. Cheapskates and theives. In terms of this kind of event, its usually a good indicator as to how they’ll also treat the artists who make the night. If you can afford legal action..do it, people like this really need to get bitten back.

  5. This whole thing tastes like bait. Mmm. tastey.

    Ugly? Hell yeah. Most of these types of fliers are. But that’s not the point.

    The question is, is it a rip. Right? Sure they used his/her grid background, layout. There’s that … sorta rippyish.

    I guess you can try to “pursue legal action” (if all the paperwork, contracts, contract terminations etc are in place) but really, is it worth it for this? All the promoter would have to do is pull out a box of club fliers from the dawn of club fliers and show how a large percentage of them look exactly like this, give or take a funky font or shade effect.

    I’m not sure if this flier gig was this persons first “real” gig ever. It sounds like it, otherwise they would know that club fliers (and promoters) are notorious bastions of cheapskate, cut/paste, google image search, thievery.

  6. I’m stuck agreeing with Maria.

    I had some group use one of my pieces for their flyer. When I contacted the group, it turned out it wasn’t them who did it but someone connected with another band who played that show. In the end, I decided to let it go. It was a no-name band and it wound up not adding up to anything.

    Send the person a “Cease and Desist” Letter, telling them to stop using your work because it is, as it stands, yours. If they didn’t pay you, and its not a “work-for-hire”, of course.

    I wish you the best of luck!

  7. I’m personally impressed by anyone who was able to continue reading after seeing the flyer. Good lord, that is the worst graphic design I have ever seen.

  8. Yeah, go ahead and file a lawsuit.

    And then enroll in a design class.

  9. thanks to everyones encouraging words.. as for the critics…i could care less what you have to say, my job isnt club flyers, i do logos, and my clients are very happy. soooo……sorry your not.

  10. @Tony

    That’s a fabulous way to take valid critique about your work. Very professional attitude — the complete lack of punctuation and capitalization in your response adds to the effect.

    You’d do well to actually listen to what people are saying. The design of this is flyer is just a conglomeration of random garish fonts with no visual hierarchy at all.

  11. Yeah, I’m a big fan of anyone who uses the fact that they have clients as proof of their design talents. Hate to break it to you, but as a professional designer, I’ve found that 80% of clients out there don’t know the first thing about design and lack the training necessary to actually scrutinize work. I’ve had clients ask me for a website that uses frames (in 2009), complain that there isn’t any beveling, and so on. You can probably keep making money as a designer until all the pre-digital payrollers die out and get replaced by people who know better, but I’d look to contemporary designers for actual criticism of your work if you give any credit to yourself as an artist. I admit some of us could have been kinder with our words, but you’re fooling yourself if you don’t think the posts here are an accurate representation of the quality of work it seems like you’re putting out–which is juvenile and garish.

  12. ^^^^

    you serious? i read this site a lot and so many of the comments come over a people who may well work in design, but are but hurt they have to do a bar job or a take welfare to shore up the mini amount of money they earn so critic like there there design kings when in fact all they did was a coffee shop logo.

    anyway i digress. this i think is more like proof you need contracts regardless of how small a job is.

  13. @graeme (If I actually managed to interpret what you were trying to say… I’m hoping English isn’t your first language, because *damn*.)

    What on earth does having a second job have to do with one’s design sense or skill? Absolutely *nothing.* You don’t have to be a “design king” or have a resume as long as your arm to critique someone’s work, especially when the problems within the work are as basic as the ones exhibited here. It sounds like you’re yet another “artist” who cannot stand getting crit about their work, otherwise you wouldn’t make up such silly excuses to negate what everyone else here has said.

  14. @Kris

    my point was more attacking those who don’t do it as a full time job, thinking they can wallow in and judge like there king of design, In my experience he people who do that tend to not be fulltime. i do it full time and i don’t care about the crit i get as i get more praise then crit. just this month i’ve been in two national magazines.

    ANYWAY! this isn’t a site for critiquing work, so often people attack someones work thats ripped when the sites about pointing out rips regardless of quality. we here to help shore up that someones work been taken an used without consent, regardless of quality.

  15. why would someone rip off something so terrible looking? sheesh…if you’re gonna steal a “design”….(should we even call it a design? perhaps an “abstract montage” seems more fitting…less demeaning to actual designers) then why not steal something that looks somewhat decent, or perhaps something that can actually be read.

    I have a hard time showing sympathy for something so terrible because it speaks volumes as to not only the person who originally did this, but also the idiots who copied it. The blind leading the blind….

  16. I am actually the founder of the “Grand Mal seizure in a holodeck” school of design, so expect to hear from my team of lawyers.

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